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i mean, isn't this harry reid's fault? harry had a chance to change the rules of the senate and he was too nice to mitch mcconnell and now look what we've got. there's probably more to come. your thoughts. >> i suppose so, though i remember not very long ago when we were all suffering under the george w. bush administration and there was a real fear that without the filibuster then george bush would have been able to put some of his very radical extremists on the bench and push through more of his agenda. so i understand the reticence to kind of unleash the nuclear option. and you know, i don't think you can necessarily blame harry reid for the unprecedented not just obstructionism but kind of paranoid lunacy of this new crop of senators who, you know, before i think we used to see this sort of incredibly paranoid mccarthyite apocalyptic view of american foreign policy among some of the characters in the house -- >> doesn't that make the case for why harry should have done, this because of the ted cruzes of the world and t
i mean, isn't this harry reid's fault? harry had a chance to change the rules of the senate and he was too nice to mitch mcconnell and now look what we've got. there's probably more to come. your thoughts. >> i suppose so, though i remember not very long ago when we were all suffering under the george w. bush administration and there was a real fear that without the filibuster then george bush would have been able to put some of his very radical extremists on the bench and push through...
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. ♪ >> can we talk about harry reid's gift? harry reid owns what happened with this fill buster. this is all him. he had the chance. not only did he promise he would do something about it, he had the chance to do something about it on the first day of the senate session. he could have done it with a 51% vote for filibuster reform and he didn't and we paid the price for it. stephanie: i couldn't believe he used the word shocking here. senator harry reid yesterday on the senate floor. >> shocking that my republican colleagues would leave the nation without a fully empowered secretary of defense during all the things we have going on in the world, including a war. stephanie: also shocked to find out there's gambling going on in vegas. >> few leon panetta has to go to the nato summit in brussels. he's like george bailey. he's never getting out of bedford falls. i got big plans. i love her. she's a peach. >> because republicans have a punish a republican for the crime of being right about iraq. stephanie: exactly. this talking voice memo, filibuster will fall shortly nomination blah b
. ♪ >> can we talk about harry reid's gift? harry reid owns what happened with this fill buster. this is all him. he had the chance. not only did he promise he would do something about it, he had the chance to do something about it on the first day of the senate session. he could have done it with a 51% vote for filibuster reform and he didn't and we paid the price for it. stephanie: i couldn't believe he used the word shocking here. senator harry reid yesterday on the senate floor....
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i think people will -- >> will harry reid bring it up for a vote? >> i hope so. >> what are you hearing? >> we think that people ought to be given the opportunity to offer bills, offer amendments on the senate floor. he said it's going to be an open process. >> so if schumer wants a bill, it'll get a vote. and you think that'll happen? >> i think so. >> let's talk about this trafficking bill. how much of a mark would that play? how much would that stop dangerous behavior with guns? if you were stopping people from buying guns who had a criminal intent? >> right now the penalty for that is something like the same as for trafficking livestock or chickens. and that's not a particularly stiff penalty and a lot of prosecutors don't want to do it. adding a penalty will make a difference. it's an important bill. >> if the call comes from chicago, i want to get semiautomatic weapons i'm going after a bank job, they would not suffer a serious criminal threat? >> straw purchasing for example is when somebody who is able to buy a gun because they have a clean
i think people will -- >> will harry reid bring it up for a vote? >> i hope so. >> what are you hearing? >> we think that people ought to be given the opportunity to offer bills, offer amendments on the senate floor. he said it's going to be an open process. >> so if schumer wants a bill, it'll get a vote. and you think that'll happen? >> i think so. >> let's talk about this trafficking bill. how much of a mark would that play? how much would that stop...
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harry reid had a chance to go for a more full-throated filibuster. but his reasoning was that when the democrats are in the majority -- in the minority and that could happen, this next election, that they want to have that same leverage that republicans have been using with this filibuster reform to block many of the president's actions. but this is a real surprise that hagel has essentially been filibusterd. it looks like ult mimately, he will be confirmed. they have been pretty successful in forcing the president's hand to release more information on that. but, ultimately, i think they are giving away some of their standing. they're supposed to be the party of national security, the party of defense in this way by blocking this very important post. i think they're doing some damage -- >> yeah, we're talking about secretary of defense. we're talking about who's going to head the pentagon. and let me tell you this, ryan, tell you how blatantly inconsistent and unprecedented this is. he said in 2005 that presidential nominees shouldn't be filibustered
harry reid had a chance to go for a more full-throated filibuster. but his reasoning was that when the democrats are in the majority -- in the minority and that could happen, this next election, that they want to have that same leverage that republicans have been using with this filibuster reform to block many of the president's actions. but this is a real surprise that hagel has essentially been filibusterd. it looks like ult mimately, he will be confirmed. they have been pretty successful in...
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hadn't been a budget since the 2nd of april 2009, since harry reid wouldn't put one on the floor you. can't blame the republicans for this. democrats own two pieces of three that make government work. the republicans happen consistently passed budgets, attempted to put things before the president and before the senate. harry reid won't bring it up and the president has time to do is go out and blame republicans for what's wrong this. may happen. it will hurt a lot of people. about it doesn't have to. if the president would step up and be. >> what's up on the show tomorrow? we're going to talk about cyberhacking and it's affecting a lot of people. george bush, he gate code was hacked into. this is a serious issue for america. we have a lot more, but, by the way, sissy houston, whitney's mother will be on as well. >> from benghazi to the border, a new survey showing 40% of americans consider illegal immigration a major cause of unemployment. this is the white house and a group of senators push to legalize as many as 11 million illegal immigrants. bad timing? byron says, out of touch. >>
hadn't been a budget since the 2nd of april 2009, since harry reid wouldn't put one on the floor you. can't blame the republicans for this. democrats own two pieces of three that make government work. the republicans happen consistently passed budgets, attempted to put things before the president and before the senate. harry reid won't bring it up and the president has time to do is go out and blame republicans for what's wrong this. may happen. it will hurt a lot of people. about it doesn't...
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we help harry reid take on his biggest enemy, harry reid. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. (vo) she's joy behar. >>current will let me say anything. >> john: welcome back to "viewpoint." one last quick question for the panel. with all of the dishonesty and unethical behavior in congress, can you name one person in d.c. you actually trust? >> michelle obama and her side. >> john: elon? >> no. listen, i know people -- i know politicians are politicians so i treat them as such. >> john: aaron? >> conservative -- moderate republicans for staying so quiet and maintaining -- keeping their jobs during the tough tough times. >> john: aaron wins the night. today, my friends the senate republicans made history when they used the filibuster to block a vote on president obama's nominee for secretary of defense, another republican. and the whole thing stinks like a carnival cruise ship. house majority leader harry reid was so angry he almost tore the tassels off his loafers. reid called it the saddest spect
we help harry reid take on his biggest enemy, harry reid. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. (vo) she's joy behar. >>current will let me say anything. >> john: welcome back to "viewpoint." one last quick question for the panel. with all of the dishonesty and unethical behavior in congress, can you name one person in d.c. you actually trust? >> michelle obama and her side. >> john: elon? >> no. listen, i...
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reid's job and harry reid and his lieutenants obviously schumer and durbin, are supposed to get that budget done. it's shameful and really should be doing it. they say they're going to do it this time, i wouldn't hold your breath. how do you run a business and your own household if you don't have a budget. how to you set the priorities of senate and congress it's unacceptable. >> you've been at state of the union addresses and you have experience at that level of government. what are the things that if people knew about the senate, what would you want to tell them, that most surprise you in terms of its dysfunction? >> well, the biggest thing that people needed to understand that there's one person and that's the majority leader, harry reid that controls everything, and the scheduling, with a bills are brought up and when he brings up a bill, for example, when he brought up the dream act. he brought it up. we're going to pass it tomorrow. take it or leave it, no amendments, nothing, shuts off the debate and tries to ram things through and spot people over those votes or lack thereof.
reid's job and harry reid and his lieutenants obviously schumer and durbin, are supposed to get that budget done. it's shameful and really should be doing it. they say they're going to do it this time, i wouldn't hold your breath. how do you run a business and your own household if you don't have a budget. how to you set the priorities of senate and congress it's unacceptable. >> you've been at state of the union addresses and you have experience at that level of government. what are the...
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the president's in charge and harry reid in charge of the senate. you'd thought we're in harge of everything, apparently. we're not. the president needs to show leadership. the house already sent forth proposals, sitting on harry reid's desk, he's done absolutely nothing to bring this to a head. he'll put a bill up with a great title, went be what we want and force you to do it, and, by the way, blame the republicans when it doesn't happen, and then they get to it after, obviously, the march 1 #st deadline. lou: military pay will not be affected by sequester. there's the prospect of possible rolling furloughs, one day a week, several effects that civilian employees, agreat number of them in the rolling fiduciary row situation if it does, in fact, occur. the idea of a sequester turns out to have been -- it seems to me, a monumental misjudgment on the part of both parties and the president, and i can't blieve we are sitting here march 1st, and neither the republican or the leadership says this is a stupid idea, and the only people with the power to co
the president's in charge and harry reid in charge of the senate. you'd thought we're in harge of everything, apparently. we're not. the president needs to show leadership. the house already sent forth proposals, sitting on harry reid's desk, he's done absolutely nothing to bring this to a head. he'll put a bill up with a great title, went be what we want and force you to do it, and, by the way, blame the republicans when it doesn't happen, and then they get to it after, obviously, the march 1...
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because harry reid decided not to do full-on filibuster reform, he still has to get through the senate and with 60 votes. and on the house side, obviously, the same thing applies. now that john boehner has broken the rule, that he's willing to move bills through with democrats as well as republicans, he still needs to hold together enough democrats so you don't see them walk away with some of these ideas. the main thing that the president has going for him is not so much the party unanimity. they are almost sort of left out in the cold because the establishment is pushing them back. they no longer have an interest in them. they want them to sit down and be kwooit because they're embarrassing them. >> five days before the state of the union address and the president seems to have done well pushing forward on his agenda. got passed the fiscal cliff. immigration front and center. gun control ledge slax and everyone some bipartisan group members of congress coming together on that. it looks as though he's been able to, in some ways, get them to soften on some of their hard position in term
because harry reid decided not to do full-on filibuster reform, he still has to get through the senate and with 60 votes. and on the house side, obviously, the same thing applies. now that john boehner has broken the rule, that he's willing to move bills through with democrats as well as republicans, he still needs to hold together enough democrats so you don't see them walk away with some of these ideas. the main thing that the president has going for him is not so much the party unanimity....
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harry reid ended up having to vote no. that way, by voting know he has the right to bring this back up for another vote when they come back from president's day weekend, which he will, and hopefully by that time, some republicans, one more republican, will have come to his or her senses. at any rate, it was the 55 democrats, 55 democrats and independents and four republicans came up to 59. harry reid voting no. that made it 58. so chuck hagle was not confirmed. and leon panetta is out. so we have no secretary of defense for the next 10 days and in the middle of at war. harry reid pointed out yesterday, this was his first. >> first time in the history of our country, if secretary of defense had been filibustered successfully >> bill: there is no doubt who is to blame. mitch mcconnell didn't do anything to stop it. >> to. >> just when you thought things couldn't get worse, it gets worse. >> bill: shocking, said the majority leader. >> shocking that my republican colleagues would leave the nation without a fully empowered sec
harry reid ended up having to vote no. that way, by voting know he has the right to bring this back up for another vote when they come back from president's day weekend, which he will, and hopefully by that time, some republicans, one more republican, will have come to his or her senses. at any rate, it was the 55 democrats, 55 democrats and independents and four republicans came up to 59. harry reid voting no. that made it 58. so chuck hagle was not confirmed. and leon panetta is out. so we...
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>> i think if enough nevadans tell harry reid they want something done about assault weapons, harry reid will do something about assault weapons. the bottom line is it's a matter of public opinion. it's a matter of what the public is going to demand. the nra does not represent the public. they don't even represent most nra members. so i don't think that harry reid or anyone else needs to be timid around these legislative bullies. i'm hoping that we go for it, we go big. of course, if we go big, we still probably can get some good things, maybe we can't get an assault weapon ban now but i think that eventually, we can even get that. of course, let me tell you, i own a gun. i don't want to see people's guns taken away. i'm against gun confiscation 100%, believe in the second amendment, but i believe we can have a balance between gun violence provision -- prevention and the right to own a gun. that's the reason why i think the president released the photo, to show that he's not anti-gun, he's against murder. he's against these extreme shootings that have happened and believes that we can ha
>> i think if enough nevadans tell harry reid they want something done about assault weapons, harry reid will do something about assault weapons. the bottom line is it's a matter of public opinion. it's a matter of what the public is going to demand. the nra does not represent the public. they don't even represent most nra members. so i don't think that harry reid or anyone else needs to be timid around these legislative bullies. i'm hoping that we go for it, we go big. of course, if we...
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harry reid almost lost his job to someone wearing a tinfoil hat hat. so i think that harry reid is going to let this die but that's how the president wins. if the president fights a battle that he knows he's doomed to fail god for bid there is a massacre or the next ten massacres he can point his finger right to the people who killed this bill and say you own this. that would be a political win for this president at a bloody cost. >> cenk: your analysis is right. but if he wanted a legislative and policy victory, of course, what he would to is go to fellow democrats as your appointing out and say hey i need your vote on this come hell or high water. it's not an easy fight. harry reid bragged that he knows about guns because his father shot himself in the head. that was the most bizarre bragging i've seen in my life and it's pathetic. i know it's a high hurdle, and i'm not putting it all on the president but this is a way of trying and being artful. >> michael: by saying it deserves a vote. it deserves a vote. of course it's grandiose but this was a "te
harry reid almost lost his job to someone wearing a tinfoil hat hat. so i think that harry reid is going to let this die but that's how the president wins. if the president fights a battle that he knows he's doomed to fail god for bid there is a massacre or the next ten massacres he can point his finger right to the people who killed this bill and say you own this. that would be a political win for this president at a bloody cost. >> cenk: your analysis is right. but if he wanted a...
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reid. >> right, a democrat by the name of harry reid, who has opposed some of the very kind of things that president obama is calling for a vote on this time. so, yeah, i think the president should nudge people in his own party to do the things that he wants them to do. we haven't seen him do it on gun control, certainly didn't see him do it on immigration and never did it on senate budge proposal. >> megyn: she calls it an empty gesture untied to political reality. if you watched that moment, he seemed to be implying that there were lawmakers there and one would assume it was lawmakers on the opposite aisle from the president who are going to stop gabby giffords and other victims of gun violence from getting a vote on this legislation. that's not the reality right now in the u.s. congress. >> you're right and look, anytime the president speaks in a venue like this, he's got several audiences and clearly what he's saying is not for the members of congress in front of him. as you point out. harry reid could have a vote anytime he wants to and i think the president trying to build a pub
reid. >> right, a democrat by the name of harry reid, who has opposed some of the very kind of things that president obama is calling for a vote on this time. so, yeah, i think the president should nudge people in his own party to do the things that he wants them to do. we haven't seen him do it on gun control, certainly didn't see him do it on immigration and never did it on senate budge proposal. >> megyn: she calls it an empty gesture untied to political reality. if you watched...
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the senate just talk to harry reid. everybody focussing on house republicans. the democrats have their own issues in the senate. harry reid from the very beginning of this discussion was not out front going, oh, you know what, we really need to do this. >> he was -- on sunday he didn't -- he read dianne feinstein's -- >> he made it very clear that this was not going because of the interests in the state where they're building and manufacturing. the question i think that you ultimately come down to and luke and others may hear this on the hell is with this whole idea of the assault weapons ban per se, people are buying these guns. it's the number one seller, the ar-15. they're getting them in droves. they're not just buying one. they're buying three, four. does ban then lead to confiscation? you have now armed a significant portion of the gun population. >> well, 300 more americans own guns than cars. >> there were 1.5 million preban assault weapons. 25 million preban high capacity making sfwleenz, and 4.7 million high capacity magazines. >> speaking to the conc
the senate just talk to harry reid. everybody focussing on house republicans. the democrats have their own issues in the senate. harry reid from the very beginning of this discussion was not out front going, oh, you know what, we really need to do this. >> he was -- on sunday he didn't -- he read dianne feinstein's -- >> he made it very clear that this was not going because of the interests in the state where they're building and manufacturing. the question i think that you...
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we sit down with the man most responsible for passing the president's agenda, senate leader harry reid, the gatekeeper only on "this week." >>> plus, all the week's politics and super bowl predictions on our powerhouse roundtable with nobel prize-winning economist paul krugman of "the new york times," former hewlett-packard ceo carly fiorina and jorge ramos of univision, congressman lou barletta and abc's matthew dowd. >>> hello again. president obama says that our headliner has the toughest job in washington. top republicans complain that he makes it harder than he needs to be, and no single senator will have more influence over the president's agenda than harry reid, who we met for in the capitol on friday for this exclusive interview. he was feisty and confident, especially on this week's top issue, immigration reform. >> it has to get done. we have to work hard to get it done. it's really easy to write principles, to write legislation, much harder, and once we write the legislation, we have to get it passed, but i think things are looking really good. they're looking good for a num
we sit down with the man most responsible for passing the president's agenda, senate leader harry reid, the gatekeeper only on "this week." >>> plus, all the week's politics and super bowl predictions on our powerhouse roundtable with nobel prize-winning economist paul krugman of "the new york times," former hewlett-packard ceo carly fiorina and jorge ramos of univision, congressman lou barletta and abc's matthew dowd. >>> hello again. president obama says...
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what's maddening about this, to watch harry reid complain about it is a little much. he had a chance to do something and he bailed. he basically had this gentleman's agreement with mitch mcconnell. the president is saying we now have this de facto 60-vote rule. exactly. that's what advocates o reforming the filibuster in a muscular way you write in the rules are saying this is the tendency that there is nothing to interrupt this tendency right now. there's nothing in the norms of the institution. there's nothing in the actual rule, short of changing them, that is going to stop this. there's all the incentives for more of this to happen. so i'm sorry, it's a little hard for me to be particularly sympathetic to harry reid when he gets up there saying oh my god, look at these people abusing the filibuster. yeah, that's been the case, you had a chance to do something about it and didn't. >> republicans look at jim demint retire and replaced immediately with a possibly crazier senator from texas, ted cruz. john mccain was outraged that cruz questioned the patriotism, the l
what's maddening about this, to watch harry reid complain about it is a little much. he had a chance to do something and he bailed. he basically had this gentleman's agreement with mitch mcconnell. the president is saying we now have this de facto 60-vote rule. exactly. that's what advocates o reforming the filibuster in a muscular way you write in the rules are saying this is the tendency that there is nothing to interrupt this tendency right now. there's nothing in the norms of the...
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president's agenda than harry reid, who we met for in the capitol on friday for this exclusive interview. he was feisty and confident, especially on this week's top issue, immigration reform. >> it has to get done. we have to work hard to get it done. it's really easy to write principles, to write legislation, much harder, and once we write the legislation, we have to get it passed, but i think things are looking really good. they're looking good for a number of reason, the right thing to do and, number two, the republicans can no longer stop this. they've tried it and it hasn't worked. look at what they tried to do to me a couple of years ago, look at what they tried to do with the president just this last time, and it just didn't work. >> but it still seems there will be a big sticking point, the biggest, i see, tie between border security and the path to citizenship for the illegal immigrants. senator rubio, part of the bipartisan group of senators said unless you have real triggers, he's not going to support the bill. >> that trigger is critically important, otherwise it will never h
president's agenda than harry reid, who we met for in the capitol on friday for this exclusive interview. he was feisty and confident, especially on this week's top issue, immigration reform. >> it has to get done. we have to work hard to get it done. it's really easy to write principles, to write legislation, much harder, and once we write the legislation, we have to get it passed, but i think things are looking really good. they're looking good for a number of reason, the right thing to...
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and the nra has been kind of close to harry reid. they have not been adversarial to one another for years. and there is the rural culture of firearms in this country. but from what i'm told last night, they're going to try to get as much as they can on this. and the president is all in on this. the democrats are all in on it. it now comes down to the votes. house speaker john boehner was pressed about giving people the votes they deserve on gun safety today. here it is. >> how do we address violence in our society, how do we take meaningful steps to reduce that violence? and as i made clear for weeks, when the senate -- if the senate acts, we'll be happy to take a look at what they do. >> neera, is this a failure of leadership for boehner to just kick it over to the senate, we'll see what they do first? what do you make of that? >> i mean, i don't think americans define leadership by saying things like when the senate acts, we'll see what they can do. i think that really -- that kind of lackadaisical attitude towards something that p
and the nra has been kind of close to harry reid. they have not been adversarial to one another for years. and there is the rural culture of firearms in this country. but from what i'm told last night, they're going to try to get as much as they can on this. and the president is all in on this. the democrats are all in on it. it now comes down to the votes. house speaker john boehner was pressed about giving people the votes they deserve on gun safety today. here it is. >> how do we...
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harry reid says the full senate could vote on the nomination as early as tomorrow. hagel, former republican senator from nebraska, faces strong opposition from fellow republicans. >>> north korea thumbing its nose at the u.s. and the international community by carrying out a new, more powerful nuclear test. it is the first one under leader kim jong-un. president obama calls it a threat to the u.s. security and world peace. the first indication of the underground test came when seismologists detected a tremor in an area that is not known for earthquakes into in jerusalem, ten women detained at the western wall. one of them happens to be the sister of comedian sarah silverman. police detained rabbi silverman praying at the wall wearing a prayer shawl only worn by men. they were released several hours later. i don't care much for people who use religion as a cloak to justify hatred, injustice and fear and i can't imagine god, should he or she or it exist, does either. i am so proud of my sister and niece for nighting for what they believe in, by having nerve to pray at
harry reid says the full senate could vote on the nomination as early as tomorrow. hagel, former republican senator from nebraska, faces strong opposition from fellow republicans. >>> north korea thumbing its nose at the u.s. and the international community by carrying out a new, more powerful nuclear test. it is the first one under leader kim jong-un. president obama calls it a threat to the u.s. security and world peace. the first indication of the underground test came when...
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bill: harry reid is talking about this potentially on the floor of the senate. if there is news we'll bring it to our viewers. graham says the debate is not over, it has not been serious. what gives? >> reporter: a couple of things, one is confirmation hearings matter. this was not a good showing for chuck hagel in this confirmation hearing and despite the fact that you have other controversial cabinet nominees who have potentially bumpy confirmation hearings hagel's did not go well, and even folks on the democratic side will acknowledge that, and that has made it even more difficult. then you have the additional problem, from his supporters' point of view, that there are calls for speeches that did not come out for the committee that hagel gave and they never received, and now you have one speech, for example, that a group says that they can get to the committee by friday. its already out of committee, but -- so now it's on the house floor. this vote happens, they need 60 votes. democrats have a 55-45 vote margin, they need five republicans. you have two republ
bill: harry reid is talking about this potentially on the floor of the senate. if there is news we'll bring it to our viewers. graham says the debate is not over, it has not been serious. what gives? >> reporter: a couple of things, one is confirmation hearings matter. this was not a good showing for chuck hagel in this confirmation hearing and despite the fact that you have other controversial cabinet nominees who have potentially bumpy confirmation hearings hagel's did not go well, and...
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>> it was the white house and lu and neighbors who went to harry reid and say this is the solution. but everyone has their fingerprints on this. and it is everyone's -- it is the policy and it is law. what is important about it is, travesty.verning trace the idea that you are going to go around and in random ways just cut things. it would be like a family that has to cut the budget saying let's cut the medicine that keeps the children alive. it's stupid. >> chris: kim, having said that it's stupid what are the chances we are actually going to reach march 1 and the sequester, the $85 billion in automatic cuts will kick in and if it does and we begin to see marks reacting and stuff how does it play out with the president insisting there have to be tax hikes on the rich and the republicans saying no, it all needs to come out of spending cuts? >> i think it is likely that we do hit that day and that it comes and the reason why is because the republicans have been asking the white house to come up with some sort of alternative in which you actually prioritize and maybe do something on en
>> it was the white house and lu and neighbors who went to harry reid and say this is the solution. but everyone has their fingerprints on this. and it is everyone's -- it is the policy and it is law. what is important about it is, travesty.verning trace the idea that you are going to go around and in random ways just cut things. it would be like a family that has to cut the budget saying let's cut the medicine that keeps the children alive. it's stupid. >> chris: kim, having said...